Cross-posted at Womanist Musings.
The Prophet said:
If a man calls his wife to bed and she refuses, thereby upsetting him, the angels will continue to curse her until the morning.
If it were permissible for a human to prostrate to another, I would have ordered a wife to prostrate to her husband because of the enormity of his rights over her. By God, if there is an ulcer excreting puss from his feet to the top of his head and she licked it for him – she would not fulfill his rights.
After my conversion it didn’t take long for the advice to start rolling in. A lot of it was couched in more cultural expectations, such as: “change your name to a more Muslim (read: Arab) sounding name” or “you can’t be a vegetarian now, God has made meat allowable for you to enjoy.” But sometimes people would give me sincere religious advice based on sayings made by the Prophet. A few were excellent and made sense to me: “Eat and drink moderately,” “please your partner sexually,” and “tie up your camel” — meaning: do everything you can to ensure your safety, protect your property or implement a plan, and then trust in God. But if you just leave everything up to God and hope that everything will turn out okay, instead of taking personal action, your camel will walk away.
But sometimes I was offered advice based on sayings that didn’t sit well with me. Especially the religious advice for women that seemed to come at the price of personal freedom or with the threat of hellfire — and backed with, “well the Prophet said it, so it must be valid and important” and “if it doesn’t sit well with you, you’re not being faithful enough.” True, for many Muslims worldwide, following the Sunnah or the Prophet’s example is just as important as revering the Qur’an as the word of God. The Prophet is untouchable, a model human to be admired and loved. To deny any of the sayings attributed to him could be blasphemous.
I was once bombarded by a group of women at a mosque in Toronto, who upon learning of my conversion, not only wanted to immediately set me up with a husband, but also had a wealth of prophetic knowledge to share with me.
They taught me how to “properly” tie my hijab and warned me to never associate with strange men. They encouraged me to speak softly (but not sultry!) when in public. They said music and pictures were forbidden, that I couldn’t pluck my eyebrows or wear perfume and ironically, that it was better for women to pray at home than to cause social strife by appearing in all of their covered womanly glory at the mosque. Most importantly, I should be prepared to obey my future husband — serve him and care for his rights with never a moment’s hesitation or an ounce of ungratefulness.
Doing contrary is the reason the Prophet said that most of hell’s inhabitants are women.
To the women at the mosque it didn’t matter that some of these sayings are often questioned, were related by only one or two people — judged “weak” by scholars, and that in some cases, related by people who were distrusted by the Prophet’s own wife or ordered by the Caliph Omar to refrain from fabricating sayings or otherwise face exile (source). It didn’t matter that for every one demeaning saying there were five others which proved the contrary or were proven contrary by the Qur’an itself. It especially didn’t matter that the Prophet never spoke to or treated his wives or the women in his care with an expectation that they should prostrate to him or lick his oozing sores. Certainly not a man who darned his own socks, cleaned his own home, allowed women to fight at his side in battle, appointed women to be leaders of their communities and overthrew a patriarchal society making it illegal to continue the common practice of burying new-born daughters alive.
What matters is that generations of scholarship told them that women are inherently weaker, more prone to sin, are the source of men’s sin, are deficient in their religion and hell bound because of their sex. And the best way to deal with the limitations of their gender is to submit to the rights of their husbands (source).
There’s no doubt that patriarchy and misogyny influences how these traditions and sayings are interpreted, implemented, constructed and perhaps even *gasp* fabricated. People have sent me the above examples of prophetic sayings in the hopes of proving to me that the Prophet was a horrible person and that they’ve exposed an evil, misogynist side to Islam. Of course as a believing Muslim who loves the Prophet and who follows the parts of his Sunnah that make sense to me, I have to question when I hear these sayings. And I’ve had my share of religious crises trying to deal with the things that seem completely out of place with the character and actions of a person I revere.
But valid or not, the effect that these traditions have on the rights of women is lasting and primarily damaging. Worse are the discourses around these traditions, that try to make them work or explain them away that are just as damaging. There are more women in hell because women are naturally more prone to backbiting, gossip and not being appreciative of their husbands? There are more women in hell because of population ratios? The Prophet was simply using examples that made sense to his seventh century audience? A woman could be pregnant with a nursing child, busy at the stove or “riding her camel” and still have to submit to her husband’s desires? Where does her agency factor in all of this? What about women who don’t marry? Men who don’t desire women? I suppose the angels are just cursing them anyway.
The problem isn’t only that these sayings exist, but that if one isn’t prepared to attribute them to the Prophet himself, then given the possibility of fabrication, redaction or embellishment over the centuries, we then have to admit to the active participation that male transmitters and the overwhelmingly male scholarship that interpreted the sayings did so with the knowledge that a portion of the population would be subjugated. Regardless of how these sayings were used in the seventh century, the fact remains that they are used today to support what the ideal Muslimah looks like: married, heterosexual, monogamous and most importantly, subordinate to the rights of her husband.
As the Islamic legal scholar Khaled Abou El Fadl says on this subject in his brilliant work, Speaking in God’s Name, “Regardless of the jargon generated by apologists about how Islam liberated and honored women, these traditions subjugate a woman’s honor to the will of men.” (212)
So. It comes down to how we as individuals understand and use these sayings.
The prophetic traditions are second only to the Qur’an and along with juristic consensus and cultural mores, help explain the Qur’an and lay a foundation for Islamic law. Not every Muslim community follows or believes in the prophetic traditions, and not every community recognises the same collection or sources. But suffice it to say that most Muslims turn to the prophetic traditions to discover just about every aspect of Islamic practice – from prayer and menstruation to gender interaction and hijab. They’re that important.
But following the Sunnah without understanding it or simply picking and choosing sayings to one’s liking without investigating their source and their potential impact on others means taking away people’s rights. Particularly when a demeaning tradition has a vast effect on a woman’s relation to herself and her religion.
As God said (through the Prophet), “do not oppress and do not be oppressed.”
So I sincerely want to know your opinion and hope we can generate some constructive discussion on this topic. How do you deal with these seemingly out-of-character ahadeeth? Do you ignore them? Explain them? Use and embrace them? It doesn’t have to be limited to women and their relation to the rights of their husbands — there are plenty of ahadeeth that have become problematic sources in their implementation: slavery, apostasy, interfaith relations, jihad. There’s something for everyone.
November 17, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Excellent article. BarakAllah fi… Hope to read more like it.
November 17, 2011 at 4:48 pm
If they contradict the Qur’an, seem suspiciously out-of-character, and are narrated by anyone A’isha would have taken issue with, I dismiss them immediately as fabrications. I don’t know what else one would need. I’ve met people who believe that ahadith are not secondary but as important as the Qur’an, which is just outrageously blasphemous to me.
November 18, 2011 at 11:01 am
Even though I know this to be true for myself as well, I’m always flabbergasted when spurious sayings are used by imams at the mosque to justify just about anything. Or when 1 general Qur’anic verse is used to support 10 specific ahadeeth (such as enjoining the good and forbidding evil somehow supporting exclusion towards Christians and Jews — going on for an hour on how the Prophet said not to befriend the People of the Book based on whether or not he stood up in respect during a Jewish funeral).
Infuriating.
November 17, 2011 at 6:50 pm
How do you deal with these seemingly out-of-character ahadeeth?
There are Quranic verses that are just as “out-of-character”, so perhaps these ideas are in fact “in character.”
How do you deal with the screaming of a lamb being ritually slaughtered? Lambs do not like being killed by human beings, women do not like being a degree under men, there are many ways that the divine order conflicts with individual preference, or individual ideas of what is moral. For that matter, an engineer who built a building as prone to collapse as this world is would be stripped of his license, but the divine order includes tsunamis and earthquakes. How do you deal with the best generation lambasting each other, and killing each other over war spoils?
Perhaps the trouble is trying to understand divine order in terms of human preferences.
November 17, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Thanks for your comment m!
Perhaps you’re right. No doubt there are patriarchal structures in the Qur’an — it was written for a specific audience, even though intended “for all time.” Perhaps there is a deeper, hidden meaning to these things and my earthly trappings and negative experiences prevent me from understanding them.
There is a delightful discourse on the “problem of evil” inherent in the Abrahamic traditions. How can a Loving, All-Merciful God permit pain and suffering? How could a perfect God have created an imperfect human being — or in the case of Lucifer/Iblis, how could God create something who’s sole purpose is to disobey and therefore create sin? Or in my personal, romanticized understanding of Judas, the creation of a man who’s sole purpose is to betray and take Jesus’ place on the cross.
So do you think that God is therefore is at fault for all this? The source?
November 17, 2011 at 11:30 pm
So do you think that God is therefore is at fault for all this? The source?
I think that Muslim feminists try to explain away what does not accord with their own sense of fairness by saying the hadith is suspect, the Quranic verse is for a 7th century audience, there is a secret inner meaning that their special decoder ring has discovered etc, but they don’t observe that there are many, many things in the world that do not accord with their sense of fairness. Maybe the divine will is not that interested in those notions of fairness. Maybe the divine will is OK with women’s subjugation in the same way it is OK with the lion eating the lamb.
November 18, 2011 at 11:11 am
OOOoooh, I’d better get my special decoder ring sent in for repair to fix my sense of fairness
Its sounds like the same can be said for everyone, not just feminists. One’s filter will always see what they want to see. That’s why it’s so easy for politics and patriarchy to twist the Qur’anic meaning and the ahadeeth to suit their needs.
Ok, so now that we’re off topic from the sayings of a human man, do you really think the Divine will is okay with women’s subjugation? From that view, it sounds like it’s just a matter of course… as you say, as natural as the lion eating the lamb.
November 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm
do you really think the Divine will is okay with women’s subjugation
Implicit and explicit sexual hierarchy is everywhere in the Quran, not to mention sirah, ahadith, fiqh etc.. If you believe that the Quran is an expression of the divine will, then the answer is yes.
The way you ask this (“do you really think”) makes it sound as if you are surprised, but what’s so surprising about a divine will which arranges earthquakes and tsunamis and the bloody lion-eat-lamb world, the eternal torment of unbelievers and the enslavement of pagans, also arranging for your subjugation to your husband? It is a lot stranger for the divine will which arranges for the lion to tear the lamb part to then be suddenly be interested in UNDHR egalitarianism in gender relations.
November 19, 2011 at 1:12 am
No, not surprised in the least. You just use extremely general and idealized examples, so I’m just trying to nail down what you’re actually trying to say.
Despite your extremely dark beliefs on what the Quran says not all Muslims live like that – must account for something. Enslavement of pagans? Are you talking 7th century? Earthquakes and tsunamis and also love, births, scientific advancement. There is good within all the evil.
Anyway, can’t wait to hear what you have to say on my next post actually discussing specific patriarchal quranic verses. Thanks for commenting.
November 18, 2011 at 1:40 am
Maybe these things that don’t make sense to us are here simply for the purpose of us to to question them and allow us to think about ourselves as human beings and about the interaction between ourselves, God and the universe. There are countless of passages in the Koran that go along the lines of “2fala yatafakaroon” or “will they not ponder”, to me that is proof that God wants us to think and reach our own conclusions in the context of the fundamental mercy of islam
I never believed that God wanted us to be passive participants in our lives or just take someone else’s word for it.
We succumb to cultural interpretations and fear of trying to look at another interpretation of islam/ Quran/ hadeeth because that is what we see our parents/ cultures do and we are too afraid/ lazy to change (and because we can be accused of becoming Kafir)… forgetting that this is the same excuse the unbelievers gave when asked them why they continue to worship idols (e.g. Baqarah verse 170-171), they simply followed and believed something that is wrong without questioning cuz the other guy is doing it.
By taking away people’s right to think you cause them to fall into old habits of going with the flow. So by building points of questioning into the religion of islam God is making sure we never stop thinking.
In a way by opening lines of dialogue it allows and encourages people to learn more about the fundamental meanings of islam which keeps the religion and God alive in people’s hearts.
November 18, 2011 at 11:13 am
Dina, I absolutely love your comment. I couldn’t agree more.
November 18, 2011 at 5:34 am
The complexities of god, and the complexities of human beings are one in the same; and do take a lot of understanding because human beings are individuals as their God is an individual, because all of them work or live by very often makng Paradoxical statements; which very often combines contradictory features or qualities in the interpretations of most of what the prophet says at the time of saying or writing their Holy Words given to them by their God who then deliver to the people who read them.
Gods blessing always
November 18, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Would you consider submitting something that says ‘As God said (through the Prophet), “do not oppress and do not be oppressed”‘ to Occupy the Patriachy? We are seeking new entries and I think you could come up with something awesome. Or if you have other ideas, I’d welcome them!
November 20, 2011 at 10:18 am
But are you all not Children of God, yes you are all children of God, but this does not say that you have to differ from your leaders; those who will oppress you or you oppress them, Then what shall you all do to make peace and love amongst you. Find the state of equilibrium in which opposing forces or influences are ballanced, in the state of being physically balanced with a great calm state of mind, and then all being well then peace will be attained, but then there will always be those who will not be this way and want power over the others.
Then as God said through the prophet “do not oppress and do not be oppressed” to Occupy the Patriachy. and then the Patriachy will as has already been experienced oppress more so the others who want equality or peace, sadly this will cause and has done greate rifts as the years pass by, but through time of which will be long and could last for centuries, have people to endure so much pain and abuse and even death?. No.
Then this is where God in all his wisdom often uses paradoxical statements by saying THE MEAK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH, and shall not be oppressed. Therefore he is placing the responsility into the hands of THE OPPRESSED, and out of his own. But he would also say every one who responds in the only way they have left open to them is to fight for their freedom then they will do so no matter what God tells them. Because they will or maybe through time turn the tables onto those who oppressed them and then become the oppresser.
An ever ending circle of violence and the only way God can bring this to an end is to take the the people to where he wants them to be via Direct and or indirect divine intervention and take the responsibility out of the hands of the people.
But saying this he will have his way and if the people are ruled by the despot as they have been so over the last few years, then the despot will be diminished and when taken into custody and will be prone to mans law and suffer the consequences.
November 21, 2011 at 5:59 am
My blog above, there is a typing error at the beginning of the second paragraph it shoud read “A never ending circle of violence and not an ever ending circle of violence.
November 20, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Any woman who tells me that of course in Islam it it allowed for a man to beat his wife or similar attitude etc., I immediately ask if she would like her husband to beat her, or her father to beat her mother….
November 20, 2011 at 12:45 pm
I am itching to do a Lego tafsir of 4:34, but the time isn’t right yet… I used to question the meaning of that verse but now I understand it well. And people ignore the fact that the Quran asks people to obey and follow the Prophet, and the Prophet never beat his wives, as well as ASKED us to be kind to our wives.
November 20, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I can NOT WAIT for that!
And I’m itching to do a post on the same
November 20, 2011 at 12:46 pm
In fact the more I study about some of the ways people lived during the era of the Prophet the more I see some of the inconsistencies with today’s “Islamic” behaviours that have no basis in Islam – such as gender segregation.
I even wrote a piece on how some people are more pious than the Prophet (!) in their attitude towards Islam.
November 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Mezba… That is the most brilliant post I have ever read. Thank you for writing it.
November 23, 2011 at 12:30 am
You know, I’ve often wondered about the claims that pre-Islamic Arabian society buried female infants alive. I’m not saying that infanticide has never happened, but I’ve never heard anyone make this claim who WASN’T an Islamic apologist (I mean, of the scholars I have read on this topic).